It all makes sense now

[pseudogeek]

I was wondering why did the male cast of Pokemon Special suddenly became girly after the artist switch. Apparently, the editor told the new artist "you must draw the boys like how you used to draw girls" and the new artist might have taken this a bit too seriously.


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Someone give me realgirls!Silver/Red/Green please T______T They would make awesome girls. Red and Green were like a lesbian couple since the LGFR arc and I would like to see them as a real lesbian couple.

P.S.: I just read a fic with pre-op transsexual Red too. Ngh. I think I like that Red. I mean, Green's a boy, Blue's a girl, so why can't Red be the third gender? Same with Gold/Hibiki, Kris/Lyra and Silver. That redhead had been pressing my transromanticist fetish since I first saw him.

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[rax]

...so first off I really need to start Pokemon Special, everything I hear about it is good.

Second --- hrm, trans Red would be really interesting, and would subvert a lot of tropes about trans characters. She'd be strong, and competitive, and quiet but not unassuming. I could dig it. Silver... I mean I guess that could work? He just doesn't read that way to me.

I do have to say though, "the third gender" is kind of an uncomfortable term; there isn't really a single "third gender" and if there were it wouldn't be trans, at least in US/European cultures, it would be something else. *brief moment of gender politics*

[pseudogeek]

(Ugh, the comment I was going to post deleted itself. I seriously need a session saver. Trying to reproduce the same text now.)

I recommend the Electric Tales of Pikachu too if you haven't read it already.

Yes, Red would make a model trans person. Zie would be trans, but Red isn't likely to focus on that and instead focus on things normal people of hir world would focus on. One problem with many LGBTQ works is that they tend to overfocus on the characters being "queer" and this overshadows everything else, reducing the characters into symbols and labels when it was exactly the thing they should be preventing. If LGBTQ people are just ordinary people who deserve the same rights as other ordinary people, then they should be presented as ordinary people with their sexuality on the same level as, say, preference for music. It would be accurate and necessary to bring up all the troubles of being queer in an oppressive society, but it shouldn't take all the place. There should be rooms to humanise the characters so that non-LGBTQ people can associate with them, to see the characters as same human beings as they are.

I see Silver as "I don't see myself as a boy or a girl" as opposed to the trans-N's "I am a boy or a girl (but mostly I want to be a woman)." It's not exactly a trans, but it's a gender queer by current standards. But I can totally see that you see him as "normal" as in he sees himself as a boy and is a boy. But to me he doesn't see himself as either. And he doesn't think too much about it.

I know that "the third gender" is an uncomfortable term. Gender identity is a spectrum, so theorically there could be infinite genders. But I don't know a better term, and in context I named two genders so Red is the third gender, numerically speaking.

(Don't worry, I'm also into gender issues because I'm a Questioning. But our views might still clash eventually.)

[rax]

To me, Silver is more "Gender? Why are you talking to me about this, I need to go [train my pokémon|save the world|brood|be mean to someone because I haven't figured out how to be nice yet]" which I guess could fall under genderqueer sometimes. :) Keep in mind I haven't read the manga so I am going based on game and fanon; maybe I would have a similar opinion if I read the manga. While N is like "This gender thing is kind of bogus, but regardless I got a raw deal and would like a new one now."

As far as terminology goes: In that context I would have just said "Green's a boy, Blue's a girl, so why can't Red be another gender?" "third gender" just makes me think of 1970s anthropologists. Admittedly that might be specific to having actually read 1970s anthropologists talking about gender. :/

It's not like we need to have the same views! I am excited to hear people who think different things than me. I am kinda picky about terminology though, sometimes to a fault.